From: Ihor Radchenko <[email protected]> To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <[email protected]> Cc: Org Mode List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Status of the all-tex-fonts feature branch Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2025 06:43:12 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <875xcvtbh0.fsf@localhost> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAO48Bk9HxAVEBD3noETpr0aGR1S=o+Nptu7M9h81a+2_niKy+A@mail.gmail.com> Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <[email protected]> writes: >> > I would rather finish the process as is now and then think about a >> > possible merge of both variables in a new one. Introducing it, we >> > could talk about compromises and give the users a coarse (for all) and >> > a fine-tune button (for the experts). >> > >> > WDYT? >> >> We can postpone this discussion if I wish to. > ??? I was referring to "then think about a possible merge of both variables in a new one". Let's leave this discussion aside and focus on other parts of the code and docs. >> 1. I changed the default values to be more descriptive > > I personally would keep nil instead of none, since it is a well > established standard in Emacs. Ok. I do not feel strongly about this particular rename. > Regarding the only-fonts value, if we really don't like t, we should > use "fontspec" > We are using the LaTeX package names already, so why not use it in > this case too... Oops. Of course. In fact, I later wrote "When =#+LATEX_MULTI_LANG= is set to ~fontspec~" only-fonts was my initial idea but then I arrived to the same conclusion that using package name will be better. >> By default, LaTeX language settings should be configured manually, by > When this variable is nil, the LaTeX language features need to be > configured manually, There is no variable, right? We are talking about +LATEX_MULTI_LANG keyword. >> setting up the fonts. ~babel~ and ~polyglossia~ can also set fonts >> per-language. > [Side comment: babel and polyglossia *use* fontspec. So this] >> - more fine-grained control compared to ~fontspec~. > Leave this out. Right. What I wanted to emphasize is that babel and polyglossia provide a superset of features compared to fontspec. I agree with all other suggestions. > We are all in a learning process here. > My current approach to rationalising all this is that > 1.- We should always recommended to choose a Unicode font that covers > all the scripts. +1 > 2.- babel/polyglossia should be used to activate typesetting rules for > non-English documents. +1 > 3.- When a script is not included in a font, we can use fallback fonts > w/fontspec for English docs or babel/polyglossia for non-English > documents > I'm using this approach with my students too and it seems to work (ie. > they seem to understand it better this way) +1. Although your branch currently requires users to configure the fallbacks manually. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode maintainer, Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>. Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>, or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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2025-06-23 5:46 Status of the all-tex-fonts feature branch Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-06-29 8:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-06-29 8:51 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-06-29 16:59 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-06-29 18:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-06-30 6:41 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-06-30 10:35 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-06-30 17:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-07-01 5:28 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-02 16:03 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-04 7:44 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-06 17:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-07-07 7:55 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-07 16:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-07-06 17:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-06-30 17:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-07-01 5:20 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-06 17:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-07-15 17:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-07-16 6:08 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-16 7:41 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-17 10:57 ` Max Nikulin
2025-07-17 15:18 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-19 14:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-07-17 15:23 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-17 15:39 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-17 15:59 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-19 14:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2025-07-22 8:11 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2025-07-27 13:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
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