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Etsy is misrepresenting the slow sales.
How do we know? The person who compiled the information says so:
crossmr says:
etsy put out a contract on mutrk.com to have someone index that thread to generate statistics on how many people were having problems.
The pay was structured as 30 cents, but then a bonus paid of 30 cents per page. That's 30x100
$30.
Took 5 hours. I submitted their stats a month ago. Apparently they've used them and made statements about them since then (frankly misleading ones, looking at the thread)
They haven't returned to the site and approved the work though and paid for it. After 1 month (which is tomorrow) its auto approved, but the only thing auto approved is the base pay of 30 cents.
I've sent e-mails through the site which have been ignored.
crossmr says:
I submitted their stats a month ago. Apparently they've used them and made statements about them since then (frankly misleading ones, looking at the thread)”
What's this Mturk thing you ask?
crossmr says:
Yes Mturk.com is an amazon thing. It is a contract site where people can put out freelance contracts to get menial tasks done. Etsy used this site to get work done to solve the users problems, but refuses to return to pay for the contract they put out.
If it's an Amazon thing, why not go to Amazon?
crossmr says:
Amazon has a hands off policy for dealing with problems between users and contractors. They encourage people to work it out themselves, but etsy has remained silent through the site. The only thing they do is give the contractor 1 month to approve or reject the request then if neither is done, it's auto-paid.
but the way this one was set up, auto-pay means I lose 99%
We especially like this summation of the story by forum regular Eclipse in the same thread:
It's all shenanigans, from soup to nuts
-starting a poll in the forums when only 2% of sellers use the forums
-framing the question in such a slanted way
-closing it down in such a rude way
-then closing down the thread asking why it was closed!!
-then saying everyone who posted in the thread was lying anyway
-then hiring some poor pieceworker to collect the data and not pay him
The only shenanigans left is to lock or even delete this thread, and to brickwall the contractors account
By the way, Etsy, you really should pay the freelancers you hire to compile stats since you’re obviously too inept to do so even ::cough:: with 90 people on staff:
“They haven't returned to the site and approved the work though and paid for it. After 1 month (which is tomorrow) its auto approved, but the only thing auto approved is the base pay of 30 cents. I've sent e-mails through the site which have been ignored”(If you are having trouble with the math, it means instead of being paid $30.00, thanks to etsy dragging their feet all this poor guy will be paid is 30 cents, the initial bid since the agreement was +30 cents a page for the 100 page thread.)
Here is the screen shot of the inital job order, requested by a Carrington Williams III, aka Cwilly3, a Etsy Financial dude. (how ironic, do they make a T-shirt with that on it?)
Welcome to our world, Freelancer Dude, where Etsy doesn’t respond to emails, making it harder to make a living.
Bad form Etsy, bad form. Freelancers often work their asses off for very little pay, especially via low-bid sites like MTurk. That person was willing to do 5 hours of work for $30…how much do your employees get for doing nothing?
Nevermind the fact that you’re completely dismissing seller concerns over sales when you are actually admitting in private that something is up. Stop jerking your sellers around!
(If you’re interested in the list of sales drop info compiled by the OP of the thread and sent to Etsy see the csv file uploaded by the user or see pages 4-13 of the thread.)
(If you’re interested in the list of sales drop info compiled by the OP of the thread and sent to Etsy see the csv file uploaded by the user or see pages 4-13 of the thread.)
Oh and, Etsy, maybe you should tap into that database of yours to get figures instead of compiling highly selective data from the forums, where a very slight portion of site users actually appear, and you’re likely getting a biased view from those who had issues or are highly defending the site (especially with how YOU worded the thread that was indexed). You aren’t getting all of those inbetween shop figures, which are extremely important to really see what is going on. A slight decrease on the inbetweens can add up to show a significant drop overall. Or maybe you don’t want to know that.
The saddest part of this is if they had ASKED in the forums for someone (or someones) to do this, they would have gotten hundreds of sap volunteers offering to do more of Etsy's work for it free. Heck, didnt they just hire volunteer moderators? Why not assign one of them to do it?
