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Eric Koenig #Scriptchat Transcript July 19, 2015
Screenwriter Eric Koenig @EricKoenig123 was our guest tonight to discuss selling his script, MATRIARCH, to Paramount, writing when you work a full-time job, and much more! Enjoy!
- It’s #SCRIPTCHAT O’CLOCK with guest is @EricKoenig123 writer of Paramount’s MATRIARCH. @zacsanford moderating http://www.scriptmag.com/features/usaf-dentist-eric-koenig-sells-matriarch-paramount …
- It's #scriptchat o'clock. Please welcome our guest @EricKoenig123, who recently sold MATRIARCH to Paramount.\
- Hi Zac, thanks for running this thing for all of us. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Had you had much spec/indie experience prior to getting the STUDIO gig? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 If you feel like you miss a question here or there, don't fret. Most will ask once again. :) #scriptchat
- No experience prior to MATRIARCH, so trying my hardest not to mess everything up. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Oh, now I feel dumb. So Matriarch was a spec? Q: How much has it changed since being purchased? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Before getting exposure in the LaunchPad screenwriting comp, what were you doing to build your career. #scriptchat
- Hey guys! *waves* #scriptchat
- Quite a bit. Initially I was a little reluctant, as it was my baby... #scriptchat
- Hello all you happy people. #scriptchat
- But as soon as I realized that we we're all on the same team, all trying to make a movie... #scriptchat
- For those who are new to the chat, it is easy to follow the conversation here: http://www.tchat.io/rooms/scriptchat … #scriptchat
- I was much more accepting of all the notes - and there were many. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Q: When dealing with notes/feedback, do you try to use what you think works best, or try to build on the notes? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 How many scripts did you write before you knew Matriarch was the one to submit to comps? #scriptchat
- If no one's read MATRIARCH yet, it's a nice little G-rated family film. #scriptchat
- Thanks for all the congrats! #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 By that I mean taking a note and adding your own twist to the suggestion #scriptchat
- Hey everyone. First time on #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Congrats on Matriarch, Eric! #scriptchat
- I had written "several" before MATRIARCH, in different genres, but always felt it was my strongest work. #scriptchat
- @Harlem_Rose hey Harlem and welcome #scriptchat
- I can't say enough good things about screenwriting competitions, because that's how I broke in... #scriptchat
- Congrats on MATRIARCH, @EricKoenig123 ! #scriptchat
- Hey Sarah! #scriptchat
- Especially The Launch Pad contest at The Tracking Board - those guys are GREAT. #scriptchat
- @filmwritr4 Hey! Thanks for the welcome. #scriptchat
- Here is the article mentioning the sale: http://deadline.com/2014/11/matriarch-air-force-dentist-veterans-day-paramount-1201282435/ … #scriptchat
- Hi Sarah - thank you. The draft I submitted to the competition was prob #4 or #5? #scriptchat
- @Harlem_Rose You're welcome and thanks! #scriptchat
- And it changed drastically from the first draft to the one I submitted…. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Are you really a dentist by day? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Are you still in the Air Force and do you get any jabs from other Airmen about selling the script? #scriptchat
- And has continued to change (for the better) since the sale (re-writes). #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 What genre is your favorite to write and why? #scriptchat
- Yes, it's all about teeth Mon-Fri. Still in the Air Force, which means I can only write evenings and weekends... #scriptchat
- But I do a LOT of writing on my evenings and weekends! #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Thanks so much for your continued service to our country, Eric. Really appreciated. #scriptchat
- Chris, I'm def partial to dark material/stories, so thrillers and horror. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Wow! Sounds like you can give a clinic on strong work ethic! #scriptchat
- Greetings and salutations youse... #scriptchat
- Bob, Rewrite schedule was typical: 8-weeks for initial studio rewrite, then producer passes. #scriptchat
- Proud to serve - thank you. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Since this is a feature you wrote, are the rewrites significantly different than what you've worked on before? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Agreed. Competitions are a great way to build a resume & credibility. Plus the feedback never hurts. #scriptchat
- @dwacon Hey Dwayne! *waves* #scriptchat
- Hi everybody! #scriptchat
- @SarahAlexis4 It's okay, thanks Sarah! #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Be honest - did you find yourself thinking about the re-writes while you had someone in the chair? #scriptchat
- Sorry I'm late... did I miss the dancers? #scriptchat
- Chris, the re-writes have spanned the spectrum, truly. From minor scene changes, to what I'd call a massive structural overhaul. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Hi Eric. Congrats on breaking through! When your work was picked up, what were 2 things they loved about it? #scriptchat
- @cl_pike Hey C.L.! *waves* #scriptchat
- What's your process? Outline, u don't outline etc... #scriptchat
- Hi to all! #scriptchat
- I hate massive structural overhauls! #scriptchat
- @wcmartell Hey Bill! *waves* #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Did you have reps before you landed in the Launch Pad contest, or did they come knocking afterwards? #scriptchat
- Again, I think it's my job (our job!!) as a screenwriter to give my producers and my studio EXACTLY what they want. #scriptchat
- If it means re-writing my script, no prob - done. #scriptchat
- Nick, great question! 1) They loved it was a new take on the serial killer genre and 2) That it had a twist or two in it. #scriptchat
- @JoleeneMoody Hey Joleene! *waves* #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I was also a “Wing Nut” — made O-3 (despite Col. sabotaging my OER) — General gave BTZ to O-4 but didn’t pin on… #scriptchat
- Bob, I don't handle deal negations at all - I'd jack it up, trust me. That's what my reps do. #scriptchat
- Thank you for your service Dwayne! #scriptchat
- @wcmartell Well, @jeannevb did the Flory Dory dance, then I finished with the Peppermint Twist. #scriptchat
- Joining. Hi, #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 How do you go about the outline process/story/character creation? #scriptchat
- Sarah, once you have reps, yes, you'll take a lot of meetings and they're a blast. Best advice: just be yourself. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Except for the “corfam enemas,” it was a pleasure. #scriptchat
- .@MyTrackingBoard Launch Pad is on now, so you can give it a try for yourselves #canthurt #scriptchat http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=f3d7d53053f6e28d7eb109646&id=de5e302481&e=37bf2e9043 …
- How are those meetings @EricKoenig123? #scriptchat
- Historically I have not really been an "outliner." But there's an expectation in the business that you do…. #scriptchat
- At least so people know what you're thinking, where you're taking a story... #scriptchat
- So I've tried to become better at outlining. That said, some of my best scenes/dialogue/twists still come from NOT outlining. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I usually write a story in prose (treatment form) along with character bios #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I am having that hammered into my head in the WGA Veterans weekly workshops... #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Very interesting. #scriptchat
- BTW Jeanne, loved your recent interview with Tim Talbott - good stuff and I'm dying to see that movie! #scriptchat
- I find that the best scenes come from not outlining. Once the characters start talking, they take over. #scriptchat
- @Harlem_Rose Come on in the house... #scriptchat
- Sarah, I'm much in-tune with character arcs. As screenwriters we gotta arc our characters. I always knew that…. #scriptchat
- I thoroughly outline but I don't let it stop me from discovering surprises when writing the pages. #scriptchat
- But I'd say now I'm more focused on making sure that happens and it's a meaningful arc. #scriptchat
- Q Do you let the character arc evolve or is it pretty much set in the outline? #scriptchat
- Michael, #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Since there was some heat on your spec, what made you decide to go with Rock and Red Wagon? #scriptchat
- oops… Michael, I think every writer needs to follow their own process, but I need to know the arc before I open Final Draft. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Did you play monday morning quarterback after you sent the script out to LaunchPad? #scriptchat
- Zac, Rock at Romark and the team over at Red Wagon have been GREAT to work with - couldn't ask for better producers. #scriptchat
- When MATRIARCH went out, it wasn't a case of me selecting the producers…. #scriptchat
- @ScripTipps exactly. An outline should be a guide. Nothing's set in stone. #scriptchat
- They read it and took it to Paramount and then they made me very happy. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Too bad Aronofsky didn’t arc Noah. Ark, ark... #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Do you find that the story tends to change from the original outline you've written as you're writing the script? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Got it. Wasn't sure if there was multiple ProdCos trying to close the deal where you met with many. #scriptchat
- Sarah, #1 lesson I learned is that it's my job to give the producers/studio what they want - so I've learned to say "yes"a lot! #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I think that's key. Use the process which works best for you. Personally, I do a character matrix. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 tips so valuable!... How long do the producers or studio want the script to be? #scriptchat
- Windar, if I new how to quarterback I prob would have tried! No, just submitted and then sat back with my fingers crossed. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 What scripts/writers would you recommend aspiring screenwriters read? Movies/TV series you'd recommend #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Do you write in coffee shops? Do you listen to music while you write? Or no distractions? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Since you only have limited time to write, what is your process to go into writing mode to get the most done? #scriptchat
- Nick, MATRIARCH was 114, current draft t 113. I think it depends on the script, but as well all know, 120's about the max. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I have no problem saying, “yes” or “sì” or “mais oui.” If necessary, I add in “já” and “是的” to boot! #scriptchat
- Danny, For me I need absolute silence to write, so I sit at my desk here at home. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Have doors opened for future work since breaking-in? #scriptchat
- Chris, we all need you to write English please…. #scriptchat
- @zacsanford2 @EricKoenig123 Good question. I face this challenge as well. Probably, we all do. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 How many hours do you spend typically on writing in a given week? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Sorry. I'm on a tablet and I typed that by accident #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Me too, I have to write in silence! #scriptchat
- Zac, I'm def limited on my writing time, but aren't we all?! I usually spend the week brainstorming ideas/scenes... #scriptchat
- No one listens to Enya? lol #scriptchat
- Then I'm really good at writing for like 10-12 hours on Sat and Sun. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I was about to say that I know personally for me that it's hard for me to find time to work on scripts #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Since the sale, how much time do you spend on Matriarch rewrites vs. your next project? #scriptchat
- What contests have you entered @EricKoenig123 #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Mainly because I do other writing work. I cover web series for an online magazine called @SnobbyRobot #scriptchat
- Matthew, the main focus right now is MATRIARCH, hands down. But when I'm not re-writing it…. #scriptchat
- Yes, I'm writing other things. Currently writing a pilot, so we'll see. Always gotta be writing, always. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 In addition to interviews for @FSMOnlineMag (film music, composer interviews) #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Congrats on the pilot! Best of luck with it and hope to see it produced #scriptchat
- "Reading periods" between rewrites can go on forever! Lots of time to work on something new, #scriptchat
- Q There's the misconception that a SALE means PAYDAY. We know it comes in steps, how's that been? #scriptchat
- Finally I tagged correctly. Success! #scriptchat
- Anthony, Entered the Page contest (with a different script) before I entered The Launch Pad. #scriptchat
- Only 20 minutes left with our guest @EricKoenig123, so make sure you get those questions in. #scriptchat
- Might have painfully cold hands that make it hard to type, but a few hours ago #MickFanning punched a friggin shark. #noexcuses #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 if offered, would you re/write in a genre you're not comfortable with? #scriptchat
- Very nice. I'm going to try bluecat. @EricKoenig123 #scriptchat
- Michael, sooooo true! Yeah, the $$ thing's an entirely different topic. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 How do you handle dialogue? What techniques do you use for writing dialogue? #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Thanks! Loved interviewing Tim. You should def see #StanfordPrisonExperiment! #scriptchat
- Windar, If I liked the idea/script, absolutely! #scriptchat
- Chris, 1) I love writing dialogue (not that I'm any good at it) and 2) I love writing female protagonists. #scriptchat
- And female antagonists! #scriptchat
- @jeannevb do you have the link to the Scriptmag article about @EricKoenig123 selling Matriarch? #scriptchat
- Female antagonists are fun. #scriptchat
- Sarah, Gotta have those set-ups and payoffs, yes. Some times I know then in advance... #scriptchat
- @writeranthonydp @EricKoenig123 Do it. Even if you don't place, you get double feedback. Can't lose. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I'm sure you're good at dialogue. Probably better than me but subtext is something I've struggled with #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 How do start writing your script? Scenes/beats 1st, dialogue last... #scriptchat
- Other times I'll write something on page 78 and the light bulb goes off…. #scriptchat
- Hey there, @EricKoenig123! Q for ya: before you signed with your reps did they ask to read anything else after Matriarch? #scriptchat
- And I'll go back to page 12 and write something to set it up. #scriptchat
- Also thanks for joining the chat tonight! :) #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 I wrote the first draft of a sitcom pilot and at least I was able to come up with some good setups/punchlines #scriptchat
- Read this if you need to be inspired. RT @jeannevb: Here you go: http://www.scriptmag.com/features/usaf-dentist-eric-koenig-sells-matriarch-paramount … #scriptchat https://twitter.com/MCorcoran15/status/622930265669783552 …
- @EricKoenig123 Hope to get back to it soon #scriptchat
- Ivuoma, In my case, no. I think they read MATRIARCH, thought they could sell it, and took me on as a client. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Did the read from your reps come before or after the Launch Pad success? #scriptchat
- But since MATRIARCH, yes, it's a matter of supplying your reps with material for them sell. #scriptchat
- @IvuomaOkoro Hey Ivuoma! *waves* Welcome! Great to meet you and see you here #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 so do you still enter contests or do you now have the opportunity to show your reps 1st? #scriptchat
- Zac, My reps got MATRIARCH because of the success it had on The Launch Pad. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 when you start to see how the pieces are fitting together the ways to set them up ahead of time start to emerge #scriptchat
- @filmwritr4 Hey there Chris! Great to be here! I'm often lurking but wanted to get into the action this go around. Lol #scriptchat
- And the contest is open now! RT @EricKoenig123: Zac, My reps got MATRIARCH because of the success it had on The Launch Pad. #scriptchat
- Windar, No more contests for me, at least at this point. All new material goes to my reps. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Have you ever considered producing/directing one of your scripts in the future? #scriptchat
- You look like a lurker, Ivuoma. Just sayin'…. #scriptchat
- How'd everyone do on their goals this week? http://facebook.com/writeononline #writteon #scriptchat @GuidedGoals @MWPFilmBooks
- @IvuomaOkoro :) totally understand and it's great to have you participate #scriptchat
- Chris, For right now it's all about writing. That's all I wanna do. Love it. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 In other words, no need to date when you are married. Or, so I am told... #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Do you still have the day job or are you writing full time yet? #scriptchat
- I have to bow out a few minutes early to get to a screening on time, but wanted to thank @EricKoenig123 for rockin' the chat. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Totally get that. I love it too, and it's very rewarding no matter what kind of writing I do (scripts, articles) #scriptchat
- Michael, Still have another year left in the military. After that, who knows! #scriptchat
- Thank you @EricKoenig123 for taking the time. You give us hope, brother. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 What's your approach to the first rewrite of a script after 1st draft is done? #scriptchat
- HUGE THANKS to @zacsanford2, @jeannevb and scriptchat for bringing us @EricKoenig123 tonight! #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 How do you tackle the re-write process? Do you address mainly the critiques or reevaluate the story as a whole? #scriptchat
- Thanks Zac! #scriptchat
- Next Sunday’s #scriptchat guest is @RayMorton1 - professional script reader & senior contributor for @scriptmag http://www.scriptmag.com/features/columns/meet-the-reader-ray-morton/ …
- While Zac is away... muah ha ha haaaaaaa #scriptchat
- Harlem, #scriptchat
- Big thanks to @EricKoenig123! This was fun! #scriptchat
- @zacsanford2 Thanks so much Zac and enjoy the screening! #scriptchat
- Harlem, Some notes I tackle straight on, change whatever it is they want. always great when they give you an idea. #scriptchat
- Ray is the MAN! Read his articles @scriptmag .com! RT @jeannevb: Next Sunday’s #scriptchat guest is @RayMorton1
- Other times I'll get inventive, try to give them something even better than they suggested…. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123, how often are you submitting new material to your reps these days? #scriptchat
- And other times (0.001%) I "recommend" we leave something the way it is. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Thanks so much for taking the time to share your insight and advice with us, Eric! Really appreciate it! #scriptchat
- Final five plug: My novelette is FREE today! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HO2YX7S/secretsofactions … #scriptchat
- I've had a blast - thank you guys and I wish you all the very best in your writing endeavors! #scriptchat
- Thank you, my first scriptchat! #scriptchat
- Thanks Eric! #scriptchat
- Great discussion this evening, Thanks Eric! #scriptchat
- Thanks Eric! #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 All the best to you with Matriarch and your writing Eric! Thanks so much for the great advice and encouragement #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 You're welcome and thanks Eric! #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Thanks for answering. Yes it pays to be flexible and easy to work with. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Thank you for all the insightful answers! Best wishes for the future! #scriptchat
- @writeranthonydp Thanks Anthony! So glad you had a great first time at Scriptchat! Great to have you here with us! #scriptchat
- Night everybody. #scriptchat
- @EricKoenig123 Thanks for sharing your insight Eric. & yr discipline is admirable! Key element to yr success. Best wishes mate #scriptchat
- Great #scriptchat Thanks @EricKoenig123 for the insight. Have a wonderful week everyone.
- "Slow and steady" is not just a saying. It's a fact. Take your time #writing. #writewell #scriptchat #writingtips
- Great #scriptchat tonight. If you missed it I'm sure @jeannevb will have a link to the transcript later Ty: @EricKoenig123 @zacsanford
- Great chat! See youse next week. You can find me making more movies at http://oz.dwacon.com #scriptchat
- @jeannevb Crap, I missed #scriptchat. :(
- @DougSolter I'm grabbing the transcript now! #scriptchat


























